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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 1:44:55 GMT
How and when do you flake? Under what circumstances or what situations make you, personally, flake/leave? This can be anything from suddenly leaving a site, distracting yourself or slacking on activity or having no muse. We've all known or are one of those people who get invested in a site or a thread, but then, for whatever reason, poof. What are your reasons/what makes you leave a site or a plot hanging? Mine are:
- Real life: While this is often more of an "excuse" than a reason, real life has a tendency to be stressful and sadly, writing isn't always the needed escape. Instead, owing a lot of replies and feeling like I have to reply can make me feel even more stressed out.
- Investment: We've (probably) all felt like we don't belong, or that we can't get a certain type of plot to keep ourselves invested. If I'm part of a community and end up feeling like I can't get any decent plots for my characters, I can easily grow detatched. It doesn't even have to be something specific that I want, just something that sparks my interest and makes me look forward to replying. If that isn't there, writing feels more like a chore than anything else. While I strongly believe that people have to try to be part of a community, rather than thinking it'll be handed to you on a silver platter, sometimes it just doesn't work out that way, and it's very disheartening.
- Doesn't work out: If a concept doesn't work out the way I had hoped or wanted, I can quickly lose interest. When I lose interest, it's generally very hard for me to "keep going", because a part of me thinks "why keep working on something that didn't work out in the first place?".
- Other flakers: If I get really invested in a plot, and the other person flakes, it's very easy for me to lose interest altogether. Especially if that was the only plot that sparked my interest.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 5:28:51 GMT
real life it gets ahead of me sometimes, I've also had issues with the last like 3 years being a case of "when it rains it pours" and it seems like I can't catch a break and if it's not me experiencing some kind of shit fest it's someone close to me which means I have to be available to take care of it still, which puts rp on the back burner. I try my best to still lurk around during these kinds of things and do at least something small every couple of days so I'm not completely gone but sometimes I just straight up do not have the mental energy to put a post together.
loss of interest usually in my own character rather than setting. it's been my biggest struggle lately because I'm having a hard time creating/keeping characters that I actually enjoy writing instead of ones that seemed fun but I just stopped wanting to write after a couple weeks, actually this has been happening for a pretty long time. I've even made brand new characters galore and just.... bleh. Though this also happens if that character gets no attention or people tell me they want plots but then never reply to plotters or my attempts to get something going with them. It's kind of useless to keep them around at that point and I'll scrap them and sometimes just scrap the whole thing all together and leave.
Also socially lost interest because I put myself out there but didn't jive with the group so there's no real reason to stay. It happens.
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Post by Ginger on Jul 3, 2018 5:36:49 GMT
I don't really have problems flaking or leaving... it happens extremely rarely... probably helps I only join 1 site a year...
if I do.
1. Real life: I lose track of time or forgot the site thread/exists... Please please message me I'm so sorrry... Skype/Disord you're the greats. Bump me if its my turn to post, seriously sorry x.x
2. Uncomfortable: Most sites especially omega popular ones that are full of active users and especially been there for years... I can't post. There's too much content and I build this internal stress pressure I don't belong... just Can't. If it doesn't at all feel "safe" I'll vanish within 1 week period. A lot of those sites have people over 27 years old with lives, and just I feel young immature even though am 25. abnormal
3. Other users leave: More often then not.. All the users leave before I do, I just kinda sit there uncertain "where to go" or "what to do".
4. Staff: clear the staff don't update, hardly chat, and just post in threads with certain users never coming to me or even seem like they want me on their site.. I'll leave... reason when I'm staff I try everything to give new users attention, make sure they know they're part of the plot. Yes, the plot will move forward. Yes there are things to do event wise, it isn't just same ol' story of hardly anything done.
100% If I don't finish a bio its probably #2 or #4. I try to delete accounts and threads when this scenario happens.. so staff won't feel bad they have to. If somehow managed to get 1 thread, I'll contact whomever posting with before leaving.
If there's lots of threads simply #1 or #3, just poke me let me know you wanna keep going. If somebody wants to post, I'll post. Have really bad memory problems, and time slips for me. Luckily my roleplays don't seem to be hurt too much... but just in case poke me.
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Post by Empress Yuki on Jul 3, 2018 7:30:21 GMT
real life life is seriously a pain. I'm currently studying at the moment and sometimes, I feel like replying to posts become more of a chore rather than a hobby to enjoy. I love writing but being at the end of life tusk really made me demotivated to post. Not only that, it becomes difficult to maintain when exam season comes up. I either take a break or just leave the site when I'm feeling overwhelmed by everything that happens in real life.
loss of interest If the site I joined fail to hold my interest, I will leave the site. Why would I need to stay when I become disinterest with all they offered? It's better if I let go of that site before I get attached to the characters I created.
procrastinate Yeah, I have a procrastination problem. I would always tell myself to post either today or tomorrow but never get around to do it because other matters take my attention. It is especially hard when there's a timed event.
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Post by noodles on Jul 3, 2018 7:57:53 GMT
for me, it's always when i lose interest in a site. sometimes an rp partner leaves, taking with them whatever plot we had planned. sometimes the site isn't going anywhere, or my character isn't developing the way i want them to. sometimes real-life needs more of my attention. or sometimes, as shitty as it sounds, i just get bored.
i used to dislike it and even get hurt to some extent when someone i'm rp'ing with disappeared. was it our plot that bored them? was it my posts? but then i disappeared as well; more often than i should have, but that was the reality of it. people have their reasons for flaking. you just have to not let it affect you too much, and move on.
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Post by M A E ! on Jul 3, 2018 8:16:24 GMT
social anxiety even over the internet, this can go through the roof for me. i find it hard to join new communities/sites simply because i find it hard to talk to people, to make connections. and if i don't make connections with the members, i easily lose interest. rp isn't just threading and characters to me, it's the people on the site too.
depression idk about anyone else but i tend to fall into a depression spiral fairly easily. sometimes it's easy to bring myself out of it, sometimes it isn't. and i usually won't do anything during this. i won't talk to people and i almost definitely won't post.
community going off of my first reason, sometimes the community just pushes me away. whether it is that the site is "clique-y" or that the people there just aren't the type of people i can easily connect with.
procrastination shame i'm... a very slow poster. very slow. mostly because of reason number 2, but also general real life stress (that can sometimes lead into that), i tend to have random muse spikes where i'll post a lot at once and then not post again for at least a week, usually more. if i take too long, i tend to get ashamed of how long i've taken and then just ghost. boo.
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Post by Miss Melonade ♥ on Jul 3, 2018 14:14:05 GMT
Of course I have the real life reason as well but It's been said so I'll point to some other ones.
Medical - I have back problems, and sometimes I'll hurt so bad I'll end up stuck in bed for days on end and when I get back sometimes I feel like things have progressed to far without me or something, or suddenly there's a bunch of new people. The RP world is fast-paced, and even a little while away can screw things up.
Mental - Mae stated these, but I have the same problems, sometimes my social anxiety gets to much for me, particularly if I feel like I've said or keep saying stupid things, or you know, just plain don't belong in the community can really trigger my social anxiety. I also go through depressive episodes and it makes it hard to want to come back sometimes.
Plots - RP plots with my characters are super important to me, so if I don't find any I'm really enjoying or people leave (which is fine just hurts) sometimes it makes it hard to keep up. But more importantly if I don't get those plots I've been dying for it makes it hard for me to keep up my muse.
Community - Sometimes communities can be really toxic, maybe not even just the people in it, but maybe a certain combination of people. Other times I just don't fit in and I get nervous about that, and run.
Characters - Sometimes the characters that people are producing for a site just don't perk my interest. If I'm not interested in rping with any of the characters, I'm not going to want to RP at all. Sometimes it's just a thing where I'm not making characters that fit with other's though and that's totally cool!
Staff - If you don't like how things are being run then it can hurt some muse as well. Sometimes staff treat members badily, or are in a clique and the site feels more for them than you, and that can hurt the muse as well.
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Post by murk on Jul 3, 2018 15:06:57 GMT
this is going to come as a surprise to a few of you who haven't known me beyond the last 4-5 years of my roleplaying life but i used to be a massive site hopper. idk why i stopped or why i necessarily did it to begin with (i have a few areas of reasoning but nothing that sticks) but i frequently moved from site to site without ever really settling down.
- community can be a big miss for me; if the site is not welcoming and inclusive i dip out pretty fast. i'm also quick to judge a community so if i'm not getting that vibe early on i'll probably not even finish a biography.
- difficulty can vary. applications that are too in depth make me irrationally angry?? i don't like applications that force me to lament over an appearance when i'm using a face claim, i don't like applications that have a freeform area but then force me to write a personality. redundancies are a killer for me and i'll leave a site over an inability to focus on the application -- especially if i feel like it's being way too thorough.
- staff can make or break a site under any capacity.
- real life comes before rp under any and all circumstances. i get extremely busy but i try not to join sites when i know it'll be a busy period, which helps to keep me from leaving them later on.
- interest can also kill a site for me. if a person i joined with leaves or a person whom i've put all of my plotting eggs in their basket dips, i'm probably quick to follow.
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Post by Sharp Dressed Man on Jul 3, 2018 15:31:00 GMT
The last time I flaked on anything I had major investment in was because my spouse made a choice to do something plot impacting and everyone ghosted us in chat. Following the silence the staff teleported a character into the scene and more or less shut everything down in one post. The salt to the wound was that the character they used had been established to hold similar views as my spouses character, so even that was bent. Seeing that, or at least perceiving it to be that way, we went off to do our own thing for awhile even though we were very happy before that happened. My only regret is I guess not giving that feedback before we left because there are still some misconceptions about it.
On some sites I was less committed to that i've flaked on it was still usually staff related. The staff on one site I tried to join left instructions that were less than perfectly clear for things like claims, and then deleted claim posts without saying anything because it wasn't filled out right without having the courtesy to even leave a pending message. They also had a point buy system and you could get some bonus points for taking a wanted or recruiting someone. When I did both things and made a claim for points they again deleted the post without saying why. I won't even play on the same site as the people who staffed there anymore after having written a 4k+ history app. If they didn't like me they could have just asked me to leave in a pm.
Other times it has been community. If it seems like i've been there awhile and the only person I am getting any threads with is my spouse i'll probably want to dip unless my spouse is really enjoying the site.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 15:36:55 GMT
lol I can't use "real life" as an excuse because I'd need to have a life first.
First and foremost, if/when I flake, I make it a necessity to tell the people I managed to drag into my little social circle and/or have plots with so they don't immediately assume it was something they did. It's never your fault and I love each and every one of you for having both the patience and courage to deal with me and my bs.
But really, work/obligation is probably the biggest for me. I take care of the elderly and that gets extremely overwhelming at times. It's both physically and mentally exhausting at times, bordering the emotional, as well. When all three states are affected, any ounce of creativity for me becomes null. However I will warn people if such becomes the case.
Another reason is the social sphere. I am extremely sensitive to social cues and can easily pinpoint if and when people are being left out of a conversation. That stuff sucks, and it sucks even more if the person has social anxiety to some degree. What it boils down to is that it only takes a quick few seconds to give a shoutout to someone who pops into the chat or acknowledge something they said. A public chat is not an A - B conversation. I make it a point to give someone a quick hello when they come around and do my best to get them in on a conversation, as well. People closer to me have commented that I have a certain knack of being able to control the flow of a conversation, so when I'm aware of it, I do my best to do something good for others. But if people are purposefully exiling someone from a conversation, then it's not okay. There's a difference between joking around, being genuinely unaware, and being downright awful.
This sort of ties in with the above paragraph, but staff also play a big role in the flow of a site, and if that flow is stagnant or warped, people will flock away. Allow me to be utterly frank with this statement: if you're a staff member, you have to have at least an ounce of social awareness for your site to run smoothly. If you aren't adept in social skills, then make sure to have someone a part of your staff team who is. Members like to engage with others, so when they're blown off in favor of others, it drives them away. It might just be me, but I can note when "preferred" members pop into a chat because it's easy to see the way staff engage with said member(s). And unfortunately people can only try so much before they start to think they're a nuisance to the site and flee.
Much like Mae said, depression plays a big role for me. There's some times I can go days or even weeks without talking to people, and then pop right back into the swing of things as though nothing ever happened. And this is totally my fault, I will acknowledge that. If I feel a spell coming on, I will warn people ahead of time that I talk to, but I try not to make it a big site thing mostly because I don't want it to look like I'm seeking attention. Attention is the last thing I want at those points lmao. But because of that, sometimes my stuff will get archived and I'm kind of like "well that's that, then."
Posting speed. Yeah, we've all been there, posted really quickly and waited impatiently for our partner to reply. I don't view myself as a quick poster in the slightest. Sometimes I have good days and will post a couple times, and then sometimes I won't post for a week or so. That's 9/10 a me thing. If I have issues with a post/gaining writing traction, I will tell my thread partner. However if I take a bit to post, this is not a cue to have you flooding my messages whether site or discord, asking me where my post for you is. I will shut that shit down real quick and will not hesitate to either exit the thread or request it be archived. It's one thing to give a little reminder, but to message me like an hour after you've posted is not okay. Patience is a virtue.
The biggest thing for me is the overall plot. If the site direction starts to become character-centric, as in the staff is using the site to make their character(s) the MVPs, then peace. *heelies out into the sunset with a 'rock on' hand gesture*
I'll eventually tack on more to this because there are plenty of things that go into this imo. lol no I won't, this'll sit here and collect dust and the occasional like that fuels my ego.
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Post by flare on Jul 3, 2018 16:05:26 GMT
- my biggest issue is mismatch between setting & member plots. like, i don't expect you to have a very gritty world and then enforce cheerful plots because it just gets confusing and i feel like being tricked? i have a very specific taste when it comes to role play where i skip 90% of the boards so, seeing that community isn't what i like is the biggest turn off for me.
- real life is a second one but not necessarily so. i am an all or nothing person so i often come back from things but some of the strictest activity rules just make me go lol. bonus points if they are not written on the board but only on the discord's members-only part.
- last one is favouritism/cliques. on my boards i often go for an anonymous system even among staff that every voting gets a fair chance, however, i did see some examples of staff ignoring major canon characters just to rp with each other and honestly, that triggered me so much.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2018 16:17:07 GMT
first thing to state is that rp is a hobby, and that my (your) personal happiness comes first before any other obligations like flaking or staying around or anything like that
that said
the number one reason i leave sites is other members. i would say that about 10% of sites i join, there is just someone(s) there determined to make other people unhappy, or someone i already have a Bad History with, and that'll turn me off to the site pretty quickly.
other lesser reasons are things like large staff but no staff work being done, plot based site with no plot action and maybe i just wanna go do something else with my life.
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Post by 「イオタ」 on Jul 3, 2018 16:32:14 GMT
I just want to add that it does bother me when people flake, especially when they've taken up a want-ad, canon, or just poof in the middle of a great thread/plot. It kind of hurts morale if it continuously happens, yenno?
What has made me flake in the past: Loco admins - I've only come across maybe 3 admins who were... not very good. Two of the three actively bullied people, especially during the apping process but also on resource forums. One of the two even tried to get other people to hate/flame on the members they didn't like. The third had an issue of possessing players (i.e. not allowing them to chat or thread/plot with anyone but them) as well as plagiarising members.
Pay-to-play/write Before I begin, I just want to say that I understand donating/asking for donations, especially on expensive hostings; however, this is different from that. I've come across a couple forums that basically made a business out of RPing, and they weren't on hosts that had expensive hosting costs. Had to pay to play certain races, pay to get site currency (that was otherwise difficult getting by posting), had to pay for OOC accounts, and other privileges. When I found this aspect out of those RPs, I left the site.
Difficult apping process - especially when each message as to why the character is pending/unaccepted is hundreds or thousands of words each time. I always comply, but if it gets to be too much, I leave.
Rude community - as a potential member, I once had an entire community bash on me as a guest for saying I struggled to read ice blue font on sky blue background even though I complimented the skin. I noped out of there so fast. >>
No one talks to/writes with me - I'm pretty assertive. When I join a new site, I try to get into conversation and hit peoples' plotters up. Every now and then, I'll get ignored or no one actually posts ;;
Slow posters all around - I joke that I'm spoilt, but I'm so accustomed to getting at least 1 post a day that I can't tolerate it when I have to wait weeks or months for one post. XD If the community is, all around, slow and unmotivated (especially with the "no muse" excuse) then it's not for me.
Hoarders - Every now and then, I'll come across a site where admins and/or players have 30-80+ "active" characters that aren't actually active. It takes up a lot of claims. orz
Staff who are notorious for site hopping - if I see staff member(s) on a site who regularly make site-close-site-make-site-close-site, etc., I leave or I don't even bother joining.
Discord - I can't really use Disco anymore. Every time I try to log in be it on phone, laptop, et cetera, it always requires me to verify my e-mail which is a pain. Even if it's set up to open on boot-up, same thing.So, I no longer use Disco. It gets too quiet/lonely if everyone is primarily on Disco.
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If it's a good match, then I definitely commit. (: More often than not, the site dies before I can even think to flake. ;;
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Post by no.1 jasper stan on Jul 3, 2018 17:03:51 GMT
a main reason for flaking is flakers.
seriously though, if enough people poof or leave it often leads to a domino effect that kills the site. when this happens i'm usually the idiot that stays and makes a series of last posts. like obviously we put our own enjoyment first, but i'm the first person to admit that when we dip, we let people down. there's no two ways about it. part of rp is accepting disappointment. like i have no problem with people who 100% won't rp with people who flaked on them in the past. it's unfair to expect them to.
side note, this realisation has made me appreciate the existence of cliques. of course they exist, they likely won't flake, or if they do, will let you know. most people are 100% chill with people dipping because of life. when its sudden, without warning, and they're active elsewhere - that's when people feel hurt.
if its not other people dipping though, staff engagement of a site is always key. if staff aren't posting or at least active, then that's a sign the place is going to go down, and not to get too invested. and while staff will have closer friends, staff aren't members and can't afford to prioritise certain groups of people, as it risks looking exclusionary, especially to newcomers. staff are like the members of a band, if they aren't playing the music nobody is going to listen.
life is a factor for everyone, though i'm hard-headed and will be posting right up until the literal shit hits the biggest fan. last time i flaked it was because of a cancer scare + manic episode. but the point does stand - most people dip preemptively because honestly that's the smartest thing to do for their health, and that comes before any plot/thread/post.
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Post by mele on Jul 3, 2018 18:59:09 GMT
I'll admit, I'm one of those people that tend to flake a lot. But at the same time, I don't join RP sites all too often so I guess it sort of mitigates that fact? But overall, it tends to boil down to a few things.
Work/School/Life - Back when I only had school to deal with, it was a lot easier to RP? And like some people are definitely able to have a busy schedule while still managing time to post with people regularly. I'm not one of those people. When my life gets busy, I need A LOT of down time in order to get my energy back up. I literally cannot post or do much productively when I'm not in the perfect frame of mind to do so.
Mental Health - Like Mae, I have a lot of social anxiety when I'm online. Like I'm already bad as it is in groups? I become overwhelmed on a busy cbox. But more than that, even when I'm talking one on one with a person, I have a hard time doing so? Like the fact that I can't see or hear a person physically speaking makes it difficult for me to read their tone or moods and that stresses me out a lot because I don't want to say the wrong thing and I feel obligated to keep a conversation going. With all those things, it becomes very tiring for me to talk to people and make connections. I'd rather just stay with my close friends instead of opening up. It becomes a lose-lose scenario. I want to make friends, but I sabotage myself, I guess. LOL
Community - Community also plays a huge part in my staying or not. The last few sites I were on were pretty cliquey. Certain people were extremely idolized. Everyone wants to plot with them, but not the newcomers. It's weird because I don't think people ever intend to make cliques? There are some people that just have that whirlwind addictive personality that's loud and pulls people along and the people that can't follow that are left behind.
Admins - I'm a firm believer of the fact that admins set the tone of a site. If an admin is friendly, the people on the site will be friendly. If the admin is cliquey, the people will be the same. I judge a site a lot by its admin. If the admin rarely shows up on the site or interacts with everyone, it just turns me off as a whole.
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