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Update I've included a poll with all the sizes people have mentioned up until this point. You can vote up to four you like. The poll closes September 15, 2018.
Word of advice (from several people): if you end up changing your affiliate sizes, be sure to offer various sizes as options, particularly with the current/traditional size 88x31. However,the choice is ultimately yours.
Previous message: Thanks to Trends you want to see, it's become apparent that some would like to see different sizes for affiliate buttons, from larger size, to different shape, or even just rounding up/down the numbers to the nearest ten/five. Some might not even want to change the current size (88x31) and that's okay.
Pearlescent's idea was to vote and see which sizes we'd like to see, but before we make a poll I thought it'd be best to ask everyone what sizes they'd like to see. Whatever sizes you list will be added to the poll. On the following Monday, I'll set up a poll with the answers.
Question: what sizes would you like to see for affiliate buttons?
I was lurking in the discussion, but wanted to keep that one more positive. I really don't want to see them get any bigger honestly. They already take up a lot of space, especially as you start getting a lot of them, and having these huge buttons would just further impact loading and scrolling imo. I could get behind making them a bit smaller, but too much smaller and it'll be impossible to see anything.
if the size was changing, i'd maybe go for 90x30 or 90x35 since it's obviously about the same size and like kitten pointed out, the banners do tend to take up a lot of space if you have a lot of them, which can impact loading times (it's why i cringe at more image-heavy sites, so i really don't want to see sites start to do this). but on the flip side, if we're doing our own banner sizes, imo, you're going to run into some cross-platform issues where rl is using one size and animanga is using another or even that sites who are behind a given size are using that but sites who are behind another are using that one and there won't really be any consensus on it.
tl;dr i also cringe at the fact they're 88 pixels by 31 without really knowing why they are this way when they can round easily, but at the same time, i hesitate to change the size since it's more or less an accepted standard, so whatever changes start going around are going to cause chaos until there's another "standard" (and even then i'm not sure how accepted it may be tbeh).
At this point I'll be putting up a sister sites spot, a row of 125x45, and then a row or two of the normal size since not everyone is gonna have a new size at the get go, and not everyone is going to want to use them. Variety is the spice of life right? Also Kitten4u brings up a good point of considering load times and site layout, can't say I'd be too fond of having to wait for a lot of slightly larger gif buttons to load.
...at the risk of sounding like an arse and from my limited experience, considering how fast sites come and go I don't think having heaps of buttons at a bigger size is much of an issue.
edit: visuals! ...cut in half. Sister site, 125x45, 90x35 and good old 88x31
tl;dr i also cringe at the fact they're 88 pixels by 31 without really knowing why they are this way when they can round easily
For the basic history of why, I think it was a Geocities convention that caught on. People had to have a link back to Geocities on their page if they were using it, and the button they provided was 88x31, and naturally because people like having their pages look nice and uniform, if they had other buttons on their site to link to other places they wanted them to be the same size. As for why Geocities picked such a weird number, I couldn't tell you. I get the feeling they weren't thinking that hard and just went with the dimensions that looked best with their text.
Post by Chibi Magician on Aug 31, 2018 1:36:18 GMT
Personally, I am somebody who believes the whole "if it's not broke, don't fix it" moto. Honestly, I think the affiliate images work excellent the way they are created, especially since after extensive years of the size being featured, it has become an accustomed trend that sites across the board use. The sizes in my mind are perfect the way they are, especially since sites can fit their desired names or acronyms in as needed and site owners do not have to worry about extensive loading times. There can also be plenty of affiliates placed inside a convenient little table without them giving a flooding feeling to a site, you know?
For myself, it is also a matter of being somebody living out of town, my internet sometimes has issues; thus sites with larger affiliates to load would definitely be problematic whether it be mere advertising or checking for activity from affiliation. From a joining perspective, this would also become a problem cause if I have difficulties loading a site, I will be less inclined to join.
Furthermore, there are already affiliate table codes and plugins designed to cater to the classic 88x31 boxes that we've grown familiar to over the years. There are site owners not as fluent in code that occasionally rely on these and could perhaps be kicked out of the circle because of their personal difficulty in coding. As mentioned by other members, altering the sizes results in the possible repercussions of excluding certain sites that do not meet that criteria because they perhaps do not desire to change the coding and possibly already have 88x31 sized affiliates created; not to mention people who did not necessarily receive the memo entirely.
I can respect the idea of variety, but personally, I believe the buttons work excellently at their current size; especially for sites that are already image heavy.
i used to despise making banner ads, regardless of wearing glasses or not, i'd be squinting through the whole process. that, and i never look all that closely to affiliates. i usually click all the banners in one go and check out the sites one by one.
therefore, i really like the idea of adapting the size, (especially going up a bit). of course the changes would not affect all sites at once, and that the awkward stage of fitting in with preexisting affiliates (from jcink and real life communities etc.) could be a hassle—but, would it be possible to affect affiliate sizing, collectively, through code? like how affiliates on some forums are styled with border-outlines and/or hover effects?
i mean, i wouldn't be offended if my site affiliate were slightly adjusted/stretched on another website, so long as the dimensions were close enough that the image wasn't too badly distorted, (like a rectangular image being squished into a square). does this make sense? i haven't owned a website in years though, so my opinion might be indifferent regarding the discussion.
either way, i used inspect element on a site with a bunch of affiliates & i tried:
Korah It would be possible with this: <a href="link"><img src="link" style="width:88px;height:31px;" title="words"/></a> Only issue is that it'll likely squish, stretch, or pixellate the banner, as you mentioned. (: Here are some visual examples for erryone.
Example (88x31 to ...)
Example (125x45 to ...)
Last Edit: Aug 31, 2018 3:36:30 GMT by 「イオタ」: Misspelt tag
I'm not 100% sure on this, but I believe it was on French(?) RPG forums that I saw 50x50 affiliate buttons and honestly fell in love with them? I'm not a fan of the current size, but I also don't like the idea of them getting larger either? I feel like it would further limitations on how many sites you (general you) affiliate with, as they will take up a lot more space than they already do. I often find that too many rows of affiliates already looks pretty cluttered, imo.
I do, however, think it would be really cool to start offering different size affiliates so a site could choose what they want to display? I wouldn't see a problem if one site liked 90x40 and used all 90x40 affiliates, while another used 50x50, etc. It might be a bit more work, but it would be interesting to see what size ends up sticking around.
Post by Felix Hugo Fraldarius on Sept 1, 2018 21:24:56 GMT
88x31 is, honestly, such a weird number and yet I don't see it changing any time soon. If I had my way it would be 90x30 or even 90x35. it's only a small change, and yet it would make coding for the affiliates area so much easier numbers wise. But in order for a change to happen, everyone would have to make the change and skin codes would need to be updated, and it would need to be across all platforms and I just don't foresee it happening, sadly. It's nice to dream, though.