A Fallout rp would go so hard. Please.

i really want to participate in an art-less site, no face claims. just to see what it's like and if i put more into my writing since that's the only focus.

honestly, i don't think one would last a long time, so maybe a bridgerton mini rp. let me make a risque move in thread like touching your shoulder in public.

stalking

adult magic academy.

or even smth inspired by fourth wing: dragon riders' college

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Putting the tease in teaser

historical greco-roman low fantasy

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Dismissing an argument as conflating when it's healthy dialogue the community should have isn't a good direction IMO, but I knew pointing it out would make people feel uncomfortable.

So sure, crediting is the least we can do when we don't have consent. It might be a good time for everyone to go add their hover and icon credits to their signature here on PP. As well as your Discord PFP and banner. And start expecting ICs with hype graphics to post credits. 

Also maybe it's just because I'm on mobile, but I don't see any art credits for the PP skin itself. I'm thinking that's just an accident with the newer skin but not sure who to point it out to. Or it's just because I'm a mobile swine.

I also would totally be on board if the community moved to artless rp. No PFP, just writing. Maybe it would allow us to combine with irlrp...

Crediting artists is kind of a "the least we can do" situation after using art without their consent. Like I said, we all know AI is bad. But we don't get to have a moral high ground when we're still unethically using art in the rpc.

Most people in this thread don't have their hover/icon credits visible. Most sites never credit their advertisement graphic or Discord banner. It feels like selective outrage.

I enjoy the dialogue it brings the community for sure. I just don't enjoy one side turning their noses up at the other when there's still a lot of inconsistency and improper use never mentioned.

I think we're arguing which is the lesser of two evils here, but the fact of the matter is that they're both wrong.

In order for art use in role play to be ethical, you would need:

1. Proof of permission/consent from the artist to repost (a statement on their page, DM exchange, etc.)
2. Crediting of the artwork (including ads/aff buttons posted off-site; if you post an ad w/ artwork offsite it should have a credit underneath)
3. Proof of permission/consent from the artist to edit the image

We all edit the coloring, add filters, etc. to graphics. And beyond profile pictures. Site skins, advertisements, board locations, buttons, Discord banners, etc. And I'm sure no one is hunting down these artists to ensure they've consented to their art being used in this manner, because... it's a hobby removed from commercial use. No one is making money off of it. It's a pretty small community hobby.

So unless every single piece of artwork used has permission somewhere from the artist to repost + manipulate in PhotoShop, it's unethical. In fact, I'd argue against "most" artists allowing their art to be used for PFP. I'm not sure how we could ever verify that, because in my experience, I've seen more artists state they do not want their work reposted rather than state they're okay with editing + reuploading as a PFP. And again, this doesn't account for all the other graphic types we use in the RP world.

I'm sure this makes me the villain to say it, but both are wrong. Is one more wrong? Probably. But I don't think we get to condescend to one group when the other is still not being vigilant in ensuring consent has been gained for every member on every site for art use.

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