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Reconnecting with people is an incredible thing. It's why I never change my name. I'm always hoping someone from the past will see me and say hi, if I don't beat them to it, lol. โ™ฅ
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Pretty much an entire post...but when you're proud, you're proud. \o/
The cutting words of the woman who had raised him echoed like a voice that would never know silence within the corner of his mind. She hated his abnormality, and made a mockery of the way he was, but her words had long since lost their power. Her actions, however, were deeply engraved within his being. And of all the terrible things she said would come true, being abusive was ultimately his sin.

โ€œIf you can so easily throw away something that was once important to youโ€ฆThen isnโ€™t that exactly what will happen to me?โ€

Punishing to the core, he felt the truth of his argument cord through him like a physical assault. He, had uttered one of his deepest failures and it burned like a festering wound.

โ€œI donโ€™t care what you think,โ€ he mirrored an earlier statement, his voice a harsh whisper, his brows snapping downward into a distraught frown. What sounded counterproductive, was merely a coping mechanism. Caring would only stop him, it would leave him stranded with just another want that he couldnโ€™t grasp.

โ€œIf you wanted stability,โ€ he began, tone laced with his inner struggles as he brought his masculine and piercing gaze onto the other. โ€œThen Iโ€™m the last person you should have given a second chance to.โ€
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i used the term "baby's first rp site" as a quick shorthand to cover a lot more ground than simply "someone new to rping" since, for example, people who come from other platforms (like discord or tumblr) or are returning to the forum rp community after a very long time often require a similar amount of hand-holding + gentle correcting for "basic" things that is super time-consuming and exhausting to handle, even if they may have a general idea of rp etiquette or navigating forum software; they're also tons more likely to show up on a site than someone who is brand new to rping, in my experience, so not including them is doing a huge disservice to the spirit of the original scream into the void sentiment i expressed in the op. (and, plot twist, i very obviously don't use that phrasing on my site since it's not something i would use out of context + only used it here on pixel in a staff confessions thread for the purpose i just explained + with enough context to be understood.)

but also the situation is actually a whole lot more messy than "just say you're not a good site for beginning rpers but there's lots of other sites that are accommodating". while that's a good way to handle it privately on an individual basis after the member has started the application process, it's definitely not something that's going to work to put in a site's rules section or description area for fairly obvious reasons.

however, using labels like "literate / semi-literate" or "intermediate / advanced" to try to convey that message instead also gets messy between esl rpers often feeling like it targets them (which it often isn't meant to), regular rpers taking it as a red flag that a site staff are elitist jerks (which it may not necessarily be), the labels not really getting at what they need to (since most people don't realize returning rpers or platform-hoppers are often in a similar boat to beginning rpers), and people just generally not realizing that they would fall into that beginner category (since imo most people don't tend to think of themselves as beginners, even if they recognize they're new to this or might need a little more help than someone more familiar with the format + culture).


tl;dr, it's really hard to communicate that a site isn't really a good place to integrate someone who isn't generally familiar with current forum rp culture + norms when the labels we try to use to communicate this often get interpreted as a red flag by people it's not meant to be catching and interpreted as not applying to them by people it is, and boy howdy does that make me want to stare into a void every time i then have to have the staff discussion of "do we need to be talking to this person privately or are we just gonna deal with it?"
out of curiousity:

what does it mean to be "beginner friendly"?

what does a site need to be accommodating to new rp'ers?

what are the "basics"?



like i know a lot of people that started out on Neopets, because that was the ONLY option. we've moved a long way from that. but like... you gotta start somewhere. and we're all using jcink or proboards, so personally, navigating forum software/interfaces doesn't factor in for me as whether or not something is for beginners.



i do agree that literate/intermediate/advanced does rub me the wrong way, for the some of the reasons you've mentioned. and i'm not necessarily looking for a better alternative. i'm just curious as to what it means to be beginner friendly, and if you (used generally) aren't willing to be someone's first, then what should people look for?

I really love the line "You gotta start SOMEWHERE". I think for some long-time writers, they tend to have a short fuse with new people/writers/etc. But honestly we've all made every mistake in the rp 'rule' book and once upon a time there were a lot more places to learn. I remember when I had my site years ago, I lost count of how many people personally messaged me thanking me and telling me of the horror stories they experienced just because they were new to the hobby. We talk about lack of sites, and a smaller member base, but I feel like that's just because we're not as welcoming as we once were when rping was shiny and new. And I have a lot of experience with this because I've brought a lot of new members in, from real life, or from other platforms. And a lot of them fall off of it because of negativity they encounter.

I don't know, it just bothers me because I mean I read a ton of novels and mangas, shows etc that I can completely relate to someone writing for the very first time, so I don't fully get the issue. It might be hard or annoying, but no one here would still be writing if you joined the community only to be told sorry your to much of a toddler to write on our site, find somewhere else.

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Confession of Depression.

I want to make my own site again. But, I have so much anxiety to do so. I'm an obnoxiously sensitive person (something I hate) and so when bad things happen or things are disappointing, they tend to haunt me for a long time. There are just so many situations I wish I could go back and do better to change the outcome. Especially if they've resulted in the loss of a rp friendship. I miss a lot of connections I made and I crave making a place that welcomes all walks of roleplaying from new writers to old writers.

But, it's just this, messed up want to please everyone, which is monumentally impossible, there are so many landmines to avoid with people because everyone has different rules and views on what they want from a site, and I just feel fretful to try and fix and fix. But no matter what I do, someone gets hurt, someone leaves, someone is lost. And it just really gets to me.

So yeah, long rambling short. I have such a passion and craving to make a site, but in the end, I can't because I'm too bogged down by my own insecurities or whatever. And in the end it just leaves me with a feeling of depression. 

I wish there was a pill to eradicate sensitivity so I could function more like a regular person. To the people who I've upset in the past, I'm sorry. I'll always be sorry and I hope one day we can meet again, so that I can do better.
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someone mentioned it i think?? but an oc site where you can bring back old ocs in a setting thats similar to "after death" to give them a last hoorah is... such a tempting idea uwah
Yes please x1000. I've always wanted this ever since panfandoms came out, I thought that concept could so easily be used for OC's returning from all their dead sites/worlds.
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co-workers made fun of me for buying books on my birthday this year. 
Was very confused. We're grown ass adults, didn't we outgrow the "It's lame to read" era? 

What an irritating thing to go through. My sister loves reading, she has like 100 books, lol. I'd be furious if someone laughed at her for liking to read. Wish I could have been there to give them some sass. 

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I get your concern about overhauls. But I don't see this as a good thing at all. I see it entirely as the reality of proboards recently being bought out. They were so close to done, and now the entire project has been scrapped, for no doubt making 'money' rather then improving the platform. I dread the future of proboards. No good has ever come from small passionate companies being absorbed into massive drone companies.

it is not about making money, it's about especially tech industry having shifted massively during the pandemic years, in a rather unsustainable environment. proboards had financial struggles during the time (they said it was a dramatic drop), and they had even launched contributors programmes to help pay for their salaries pre-being bought out. there have been a lot of cases like this during the covid times.

it does, however, mean that, these acquisitions and employees are now being laid off. the inflation is too high, the economy is uncertain worldwide and there's hardships everywhere. vertical scope (owners of pb) has 60-70% stock price drops and 23% layoffs, even big companies like microsoft are laying off 10k, metaverse for 11k+ and so on. google any company and you will see the similar major drops in stocks, big layoffs, even closing services or inflated prices compared to before.

it is not profits for companies, large or small, but layoffs and closures for stability and survival. especially in the tech industry.
You do realize that the entirety of proboards was run by 9 people, just 9. Not 100, not 10k, nine dedicated people filled with passion and love for their platform. They've been working on version six for years now, and were really excited only to as you say get bought out and now a project they have been working so hard on is magically off the table permanently, when it was so close to release.

I don't believe at all that it's not about making money. I'm not blaming the 9 dedicated people. I'm blaming the massive company who bought them and pulled the plug on something that they had poured their hearts into. For, and I quote, it not making money, because money is the only thing big companies care about.

Not only that but v6 is canceled and the 'big' company also discontinued any updates at all for v5. It honestly seems like to me that this big company bought them and is intending to make money off of them and offer 0% support in return. PB won't survive just sitting in limbo forever.

I just think PB didn't realize what they were getting into, they thought like many small companies do, that bigger companies means solid salaries and more funding for their projects. Only for them to realize, that the only thing this company is interested in is squeezing every penny out of them until there's nothing left and then closing the project. But we'll see what happens in the future. I want to be wrong because I love proboards, but history rarely deviates.

Edit: I don't want to fight so I'm not going to reply anymore.
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I understand that this is a big loss for people who were excited about the new features promised, but as someone who wasn't huge on the functionality changes in the V6 beta and feared the massive loss of old forums as they were intended to be viewed that happened between V4 and V5... man, this is genuinely a weight off my chest.

Here's to hoping that, without the threat of potentially needing to massively overhaul your site with a mandatory version conversion, more people will feel comfortable RPing on and making new Proboards RPs. ;u;b

I get your concern about overhauls. But I don't see this as a good thing at all. I see it entirely as the reality of proboards recently being bought out. They were so close to done, and now the entire project has been scrapped, for no doubt making 'money' rather then improving the platform. I dread the future of proboards. No good has ever come from small passionate companies being absorbed into massive drone companies.
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I'm drawing again, I feel so inspired lately. It's really rewarding to do free art for people's original characters, their reactions when they see my finished product makes me feel so happy. โ™ฅ
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Can't do the roleplay site like I wanted, but I've got a bit of a plan to get back into roleplaying. It's called story-based roleplay (made it up myself LOL, the name I mean), where I draft a story, events, some of my characters, npcs etc, like a game, and get one person to put their character into the story as the main character, and from there based on their actions throughout the story events, they can get different endings. I guess it's similar to DnD campaign? But not as technical with a bunch of stats to memorize etc. I've got two drafts currently a zombie apocalyptic setting, and a demonic underworld storyline. I'm making a survey for people to fill out and from there I plan to pick someone. I hope it's an enjoyable experience. โ™ฅ
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I believe I've said this before. I don't like dark skins, they make me really depressed and feel claustrophobic. So, if I can avoid them I will, but I have joined sites with dark skins before. I just try not to stay on them too long or those feelings crop up. I don't know if anyone else experiences those feelings. I don't really understand them myself. :<

Hmm...actually maybe I do. Where I live, we have lots of snow which makes the world seem very light and white, like a light skin, but in winter we lose the sun really fast, like by 3pm it's pitch black outside until the next day at around 11am type of thing.

So I guess, because of where I live in the world I equate light skins to something too look forward to, where as dark skins remind me of the depressing endless nights we experience 8-9 months where I live. Ha, who knew mystery solved for me. LOL sorry for hijacking this thread with my random deep thoughts of the day.
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I think I might start working on a new site. I was talking with a long time friend of mine, and she was reminiscing of her childhood with roleplaying. It was really cute and just wholesome, and then I met some other people on book writing site, and they had no idea of roleplaying was. It just made me want to make a site and be a small stepping stone for a world of wonder that is to me and always will be roleplaying. ~โ™ฅ

I don't know if I have the time and energy for it. But for now I'm fantasizing.
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This is STUNNING Ztyl, only you can bring me out of my hiding with your G.O.R.G.E.O.U.S talents!!! It's so pretty though, like the colors, the white and blue go wonderful together. โ™ฅโ™ฅโ™ฅโ™ฅ



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#triggered Just remembered a situation where I got upset with a potential friend, did something childish, owned up to it by being honest with them/apologizing and was essentially given the middle finger up in return. Honesty folks, it doesn't pay to have it that's for sure.