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tbh the more i exist around sites, the more i think activity requirements for making new characters feels fair.

To control for app-n-dashers?
Also just to moderate the speed at which people can put in new apps. I think it's also a system that regulates itself without needing hard limits; if you're reasonably good at juggling that many characters, you won't have many issues at all. What can be handled is different for everyone, and the easiest way to see is to just keep track of how often you're posting. Some people can keep 20 characters active. Some people can only keep 2 or 3 active.
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Jcink also has labeled images and documents of every variable and PHP element that you can use. I recommend having this as well because you can tell what you're editing and how to add HTML templates to your site.

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It's very apparent that you've never been on sites that are Really shitty about apps. I've gotten rejected from a site before because my doctor character was cynical and mean, and thus it was "unrealistic." Literally anything can be used as gatekeeping in RP. I have seen it. Like I'm ok with denying apps that feel like the user is trolling (you'll know it when you see it), but when admins are picking apart every aspect of a character for "realism" and "avoiding mary sues," it's made me a bit cynical on the process in general.

On the pent-up anger: I'm tired of spending hours on an app for a place I might not even vibe with or stay on, or a character I might end up dropping, so yeah, I hate apps that require too much effort. I specifically look for sites with easy processes, and to me, writing a small RP sample is so much easier than writing a dossier. I don't care if it's more convenient for other people. When I first join a site, I don't know if I'm going to stay there-- maybe no one wants to play with my character concepts, or maybe the players aren't looking for new players, or maybe the site's gonna die in a week, or maybe I will stay but my first character isn't really a good fit and my second character will be. So if the app process takes too long or requires too much detail, I don't join.

I personally require neither a writing sample nor a long, detailed app for sites I run. I require plotters and basic character "interest" blurbs. I like plotters. They're great. I was also recently allowed to keep an older character I made on a site more open in her history so I can let other players retcon their characters into her history, and I've been on sites that would have demanded that older characters need way more detailed histories from the get-go. So I'm pretty grateful to those admins, since that's the level of flexibility I look for.

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tbh i get this and i will note: the RP doesn't require anything except just an example of how you intend to play the canon character. If it required a powers and personality section on top of that, I don't think I'd be there lol. Turns out I actually do like writing 400 words of a canon character responding to some random prompt, though, it's actually a really easy app system when we should all know the basic canon details. It's a glimpse at your personal take on the canon rather than a list of things we Already Know.

It also doesn't have a set word count. It's REALLY lenient, I find.
//slight deviation from the original topic but

I heavily dislike any apps that require an rp sample. What gives anyone the right to judge whether this player or that player have better writing, better grasp of the canon, and have more right to play x character? It already sets up the idea of "you might not be good enough of a writer" and just allows for more exclusivity and elitism in the rp space. It's a hobby, not a job.

Maybe it makes sense in the panfandom community, but just seems strange to require a sample of your writing to prove your ability to be able to engage in a hobby. If the admins want to make sure the characters are aligned with the canon, then they should communicate with the writer along the way, not look to see if they should be excluded from the get go.
but like idk, writing posts is easy and apps is annoying? It's fucking annoying to write a backstory/personality/powers section for a character when you can wiki that stuff. As a result, the RP doesn't require writing samples for OCs but does require a backstory/personality section for them b/c you can't just wiki that.

you can argue ANY app is exclusionary. have to write a history before you're accepted? Get rejected because the history doesn't fit the lore? Isn't that the same exact concept? Isn't that treating the space like a hobby and not a job? What about when you have to describe every single nuance of your characters' powers, even when it's easily found on google? because someone can't just google "what does the force in star wars do" and you're pended three different times to explain it better?

i vastly prefer being told "hey just write a simple post about how you plan to play the character" or "write a plotter for your character" to being told "so we need every single minutae." Canons are easier to write than OCs in this setting because it's really easy to capture a canon's voice in a single post compared to writing a personality/history section for a character I've never written.

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Writing samples are a particularly contentious application section. Using an AI to write it for you completely defeats the purpose, but you already doesn't respect it, I'm like. "Yeah, I can imagine the guy who'd do that."
tbh i get this and i will note: the RP doesn't require anything except just an example of how you intend to play the canon character. If it required a powers and personality section on top of that, I don't think I'd be there lol. Turns out I actually do like writing 400 words of a canon character responding to some random prompt, though, it's actually a really easy app system when we should all know the basic canon details. It's a glimpse at your personal take on the canon rather than a list of things we Already Know.

It also doesn't have a set word count. It's REALLY lenient, I find.
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you'd be surprised. I had a guy apply to a discord RP using an AI post as his writing sample (we only require a writing sample for canons, not an app). I don't think I would have given him a second chance, and I haven't offered to RP with him.

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yknow, I'm going to do my best to not just completely dump on a design. Cause if it's not for me, it's not for me.

I will absolutely look at you with disdain from my hovel if you use a somewhat transparent + blur option for large swaths of text because I feel like this is a full scale five world war attack to my eyes.

(again to be specific, do it, just don't expect my little eyeballs to read it.)

i will absolutely dump on designs that do not fit the purpose they exist to do. if you put your aesthetic lyrics that i'm not supposed to GAF about in font like that, sure, cool. if you put your post that i'm meant to read in that, the design is bad. full stop.

it's why i tend to prefer sites that don't allow post templates tbh. i'm tired of bad design everywhere.

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decided that AI images are a warning with a "remove the image" request, but using AI writing is an immediate permaban without warning.

the former can be excused as simply not being able to tell an image is AI. the latter is intentional, and I don't really want anyone who AI generates their RP content in my hobby.

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the worst part about being accused of favoring men when u talk about ur current favorite blorbo is that while the book refers to her as he/him and a man, you can also objectively point at the mspec lesbian being called she/her and a woman, and the author stating that the book is about gender, and the setting not being overly friendly to trans characters (but they're present despite it), and that it's absolutely fair to view this character as a trans woman or transfemme nonbinary.

i know no one else in the fandom does. i know this fandom is full of yaoi favoritism, as usual. the character's popularity is because people prefer to read her as a feminine cis man. but hear me out: estrogen would have saved her.
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reminds me that i was going to make Bella Swan as a Blank, Warhammer 40k style-- AU where Edward never came back, Bella grew up and realized she didn't need him, and also now she's on a world where being immune to psychics is uniquely useful.
this is such an interesting concept. would you keep the vampirism aspect? also would give you room to have someone bring edward back and be like, "hey babe i'm back" and your bella swan gets to have the satisfaction of telling him to take an intergalactic hike. 
Nah, I'm setting her canon point during New Moon and Bella realizes she's an idiot teenager who was ready to make a decision that should absolutely not be made at 17. She's a human, and learning the advantages of being human. Since it's panfandom, I was debating having her know someone from the Imperium, but my only lined-up Imperium OC is a chaos-fallen Sororitas that actively shames her sisters because "actually, maybe things should change. maybe they'll be better." is open heresy.

But the idea of her being some sort of person immune to the eldritch horror of the world because she's effectively Soulless and cannot be impacted on that level seems like a really fun idea. And if Edward showed up, she'd probably just shrug and go "yeah that's the guy I wanted to date in high school" but now that she's 25, she doesn't really find a 17 year old boy physically or emotionally attractive. I'd probably want a Charlie more than any Cullens, or maybe even a grown-up Jacob.
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reminds me that i was going to make Bella Swan as a Blank, Warhammer 40k style-- AU where Edward never came back, Bella grew up and realized she didn't need him, and also now she's on a world where being immune to psychics is uniquely useful.

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Oh! This is also re: the what's on your mind thread (sorry it's a little unrelated) (truly am just bouncing between one thread and the other), but there's something I've seen on RL sites before, where admins/staff members set certain 'admin/office hours'; usually I think around one to two hrs or so a few days a week/sometimes on the weekend, after the work day? Where moderation requests, admin tickets, profile approvals, etc, are all handled, so it's not seeping into too much of their free time, and I've definitely been keeping that tabbed in my notes as something that might help me stave off burnout.

Obviously, depending on the level of work or the size of the site, it might not be entirely feasible, but it's a really interesting concept, and it's something I was definitely looking at like 'if I have a specific time I can turn the Admin Hat on, it might help me take it off so I can enjoy what I'm working on, too'. The last place I heavily moderated for was chatbox-based w/ a younger/less mature ('please dear god stop spamming someone else's ip address in the cbox') memberbase, and I felt like I had to be available 24/7 to look out for bad actors... but I do think forum rp being a bit slower lends itself a little well to being able to resist the urge to be available at all times.

I try to do all my admin work before anything else and it can sap my creativity and ability to sit and just post. So the idea of setting office hours is kinda appealing. At the same time I feel like I would see the admin stuff (app review for example) and want to do it immediately so that people can play asap!
app review can be prioritized depending on how many characters the player already has in play, tbh. if they have a bunch of characters already, they can wait.

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